View Full Version : Opening a closed chimney, things living inside! Now with added Bee Swarm..
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:21 PM
I'll keep this short but basically I've moved into a new house which comes with an active honey bee nest in one of the chimney stacks.
The problem is that I need to replace the air vent in the chimney stack the bees are in. Now I'm not that fussed about the bees being there but I do need to replace the air vent as the current one is a horrible faded yellow colour and damaged.
So I've partially removed the existing vent and looked inside the hole and found the following -
Large quantities of small live maggots.
Live millipedes.
Live small insects which look like fleas.
Other living stuff.
Is this normally found at the bottom of a chimney which has been closed off for several years or do I have a bigger problem. The area I'm looking at is where you would normally have a fireplace about 1'inch above the skirting board.
Help??
Spatial
01-01-2008, 07:31 PM
Quite normal I'd have thought. Unless the top of the chimneys been capped you'll get all sorts in there.
Dogg Thang
01-01-2008, 07:34 PM
Get some mates together and shoot a horror film.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:36 PM
Quite normal I'd have thought. Unless the top of the chimneys been capped you'll get all sorts in there.
Don't think it's been capped mate. But I've never seen this amount of stuff before, it gives me the creeps and I've been told by the missus to sort it tomorrow as she found 3 of the maggots making a break for it across the wall.
Spatial
01-01-2008, 07:41 PM
Nothing worse than crawly stuff.
Get something strong from the local garden centre / DIY place and dose them all.
Watch the Honey Bee's though. Although they're not a protected species you aren't supposed to `interfere` with them as they're on the decline. Otherwise the whole ecosystem will fall in on itself... or something.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:45 PM
The honey bees are a whole different subject mate. Apparently the bees have been there for about 10-20 years in one form or another so heaven knows how much honey there is in my chimney. I've been doing some research and apparently I could have up to 10,000 bees in my chimney (eek)!
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:46 PM
Get some mates together and shoot a horror film.
Thanks.. I've a mate coming round to help me in the morning.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:47 PM
Nothing worse than crawly stuff.
Get something strong from the local garden centre / DIY place and dose them all.
Watch the Honey Bee's though. Although they're not a protected species you aren't supposed to `interfere` with them as they're on the decline. Otherwise the whole ecosystem will fall in on itself... or something.
I don't want to be responsible for the decline of the eco system equally I'm not chuffed about not being able to fit a fireplace in the now occupied breast.
Pilotwings
01-01-2008, 07:48 PM
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9804/portableflamethrowersj9.png (http://imageshack.us)
Spatial
01-01-2008, 07:49 PM
Whilst you're at the garden centre picking up some bug spray get yourself a massive sieve.
You'll make a fortune with
"Unwell Cat's Organic Honey: Straight from the bees mouth to yours."
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/knowhow/glossary/honey/image.jpg
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:53 PM
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9804/portableflamethrowersj9.png (http://imageshack.us)
If I could buy one I would..
I've visions of taking off the old vent and having the things pour out like some kind of miniture army before climbing up my body and entering my mouth, eyes etc.
I'll know tomorrow !
importaku
01-01-2008, 07:53 PM
Nothing worse than crawly stuff.
Get something strong from the local garden centre / DIY place and dose them all.
Watch the Honey Bee's though. Although they're not a protected species you aren't supposed to `interfere` with them as they're on the decline. Otherwise the whole ecosystem will fall in on itself... or something.
Well they a protected species in leeds. Last year someone in our block of flats had a problem as some bees had moved in, instead of going to the council & getting it sorted properly they got some pest guy in & he finished them all off. The same pest guy ended up in court & got a fine.
We have an open fire in our living room, over the summer we didn't use it. But when it came to winter se tried to start one up again. Nothing would work. Eventually my dad worked out that there was a low quiet cooing coming from the chimney. We had a bloody pigeon's nest in our chimney. Cost a fortune to get someone round to shift them out too. I suggested using the olde bb gun up in chimney to move em but it wasn't taken down well!
Not the same as the 'orrible stuff you've got lurking round but still a story is a story!
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 07:58 PM
Well they a protected species in leeds. Last year someone in our block of flats had a problem as some bees had moved in, instead of going to the council & getting it sorted properly they got some pest guy in & he finished them all off. The same pest guy ended up in court & got a fine.
Think their protected in East Sussex where I am as well mate so it looks like I'm stuck with them.
Spatial
01-01-2008, 07:59 PM
A quick Google search shows lots of conflicting info. One council says they aren't, lots say they are. Usually councils won't kill them but they get a bee keeper in to safely remove them.
Best advice: Bee careful
:lol:... I'll get my coat.
edit: actually seems it depends on if they're Feral Bees or Honey Bees. It's a veritable mine field :s
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 08:08 PM
Apparently mine are wild honey bees as opposed to the type the bee keepers have.
spagmasterswift
01-01-2008, 08:09 PM
I'd move.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 08:16 PM
I'd move.
I've only just moved in... The previous owners neglected to tell me about them. I was chatting to my next door neighbour and he asked about the bees. When I looked non-plussed he added the ones that have been in your chimney for years.
Surely they should have told you? If you have tenants in your house thats something you mention!
spagmasterswift
01-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Make sure you post pics of the mini ecosytem in your chimney tomorrow!
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Surely they should have told you? If you have tenants in your house thats something you mention!
Apparently not.
According to my solicitor asking if the property has any unwanted tenents is not something they do..!
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 08:24 PM
Make sure you post pics of the mini ecosytem in your chimney tomorrow!
If I get time I will although I'll probably be to busy screaming to focus correctly.
Katsujinken
01-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Tbh whatever is in/up there will probably only kill you :hmm:
At least the property will be haunted then?
spagmasterswift
01-01-2008, 08:42 PM
I'd nuke the entire site from orbit...
Apparently not.
According to my solicitor asking if the property has any unwanted tenents is not something they do..!
Is that why they moved out in the first place? Cause they couldn't get rid of their bees?
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:06 PM
The bees don't really bother me to be honest. All they do is make honey and go to and from the chimney with pollen.
I'm more afraid of the things I'm clearing out tomorrow.
Katsujinken
01-01-2008, 09:18 PM
Probably be some rats or mice up there also... If there's maggot type thingies prepare for some hardcore rancid stuff to venture out!
:o Make sure you video it for us to share in your lucky find :ho:
prinnysquad
01-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I reckon you could have an infestation of sandkings.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:24 PM
I'm not sure rats / mice would be inside the chimney. They would have to have climbed up the on the roof, then onto the chimney, then fall down the chimney pass the honey bees nest.
I hope there is not any dead shit in there as that will freak me out. I can't actually smell anything bad coming out of the existing vent though but I always thought where there are maggots there are dead things.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:27 PM
Is that why they moved out in the first place? Cause they couldn't get rid of their bees?
Don't think so as they had been living here for about 3 years and the bees were here before then
Katsujinken
01-01-2008, 09:28 PM
You wont smell it till its disturbed & then all hell will break lose, things pinging off, running about... Mice are highly likely very agile & lovin honey!
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:34 PM
You wont smell it till its disturbed & then all hell will break lose, things pinging off, running about... Mice are highly likely very agile & lovin honey!
Really, I'd have thought if something had died it would smell regardless of whether it was disturbed or not?
Maybe I'm best just leaving it all alone then and just putting in a new vent further up the chimney breast and then blocking up the old one.
Katsujinken
01-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Nah mate unless you move some stuff any moisture would skin over like, sealing smells.
Make sure you have a mask on btw, will stop stuff running in your mouth / up your nose like!
But be careful if you need to VOM they fill up fast like :ho: :s
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Don't have a mask to use. I'm really not looking forward to doing it at all.
danholo
01-01-2008, 09:41 PM
Why are you asking people on a gaming board about stuff like this?
Katsujinken
01-01-2008, 09:44 PM
Just get a dust mask from a diy shop, less likely to drown in one of them as it would drain through the fabric! :hmm: Oh and no carrots until afterwards, ok :thumb:
Put a load of plastic sheets down too! You dont want spend any more time cleaning any of the whatevar comes outta there!
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:44 PM
Why are you asking people on a gaming board about stuff like this?
It's in the off topic forum so I don't see a problem. Besides loads of people on here know stuff that others don't and help out.
danholo
01-01-2008, 09:45 PM
Nah, I was just wondering considering the situation with the bees and them being protected. :D I'd call the authorities about it.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:51 PM
Nah, I was just wondering considering the situation with the bees and them being protected. :D I'd call the authorities about it.
I've called the council mate and they just said leave the bees alone as they are protected unless they are dangerous then I would have to pay a bee keeper to get them. However it's not that simple because the bees on in the chimney stack no bee keepers will actually collect them. Health and safety etc as the bee keeper does not want to climb on the roof of the house.
So my options are to pay for scaffolding to be erected at the side of the house and up to the chimney pot. Then pay for someone to come along and poison the bees ( not likely with them being protected ). Then pay for someone to sweep then chimney and clean the resultant mess which comes out / down ( honey etc ). Then pay for someone to close the chimney pot with a cap.
Far cheaper to leave the bees alone as they do not appear to cause any trouble.
spagmasterswift
01-01-2008, 09:54 PM
I'd light a fire.
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 09:57 PM
I'd light a fire.
Fires don't work unless they are lit in the first week or so of the bees moving in. Apparently once they are settled you can light a full fire in the fireplace and the smoke / heat does not bother them.
Or at least that's what I've been told.
spagmasterswift
01-01-2008, 10:00 PM
Wow, looks like you're stuck with them then. :(
Unwell Cat
01-01-2008, 10:01 PM
The honey would melt.
Maybe although the bees constantly fan the honey to keep it from melting in the summer etc. Plus if the honey melts it's only going to go one place, downwards. Depending on the size of the nest there can be up to 20lbs etc of honey in there and that's a lot of mess leaking all over my floor.
Spatial
01-01-2008, 10:59 PM
It could be worse, you could have Honey Badgers.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5828/rateldp9.jpg
Then as well as a mask and giant sieve, you'd have to get a reinforced cup to guard your tackle from being eaten.
Keith
01-01-2008, 11:07 PM
Why are you asking people on a gaming board about stuff like this?
People always ask this whenever we get an "out-there" thread in Off-Topic. But please...don't! One day, you'll have bees and maggots and things living in your house, and you'll be glad someone asked! :lol:
Honestly, the things you learn on this forum can and do prepare you for pretty much anything. :ph34r:
danholo
01-01-2008, 11:33 PM
I'll wait and see... :D I find it ridiculous, though, that you can't fix your house properly because of some bees, really.
Maybe although the bees constantly fan the honey to keep it from melting in the summer etc. Plus if the honey melts it's only going to go one place, downwards. Depending on the size of the nest there can be up to 20lbs etc of honey in there and that's a lot of mess leaking all over my floor.
You really have been doing your 'bee' homework haven't you?
importaku
01-01-2008, 11:42 PM
How could you want to possibly get rid of bees. At least they make honey what do wasps give you.
http://www.screenhead.com/~screenhe/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/header_beemovie.jpg
Imagine a thousand of these, too cute :lol:
Keith
01-01-2008, 11:57 PM
How could you want to possibly get rid of bees. At least they make honey what do wasps give you.
I think I missed the part where the only possible alternative to having bees in your house was having wasps instead. :lol:
kryss
02-01-2008, 12:01 AM
I would expect to find a dead and rotting pigeon carcass (or 2) but probably only a small one. Hence the maggots, as they only eat rotting flesh.
Mask AND goggles, incase they go for your eyes.
importaku
02-01-2008, 12:03 AM
No i was stating that out of the two, bees easily outrank the other. Depends if they are coming into the house or not, if not id be tempted to leave them bee (lol) sorry couldn't resist.
Just checking but are you sure that the maggots are actually maggots & not bee larvae that have fallen??
Keith
02-01-2008, 12:13 AM
No i was stating that out of the two, bees easily outrank the other.
I know dude, was just having a laugh. :D
Depends if they are coming into the house or not, if not id be tempted to leave them bee (lol) sorry couldn't resist.
*Reaches for banhammer...*
importaku
02-01-2008, 12:15 AM
I apologise profusely :lol: I'll Beehave from now on.
Keith
02-01-2008, 12:23 AM
Buzz off. :D
elaniel
02-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Watch out for Pooh bear with all that honey!
Ouenben
02-01-2008, 01:24 AM
Pics please =p
I wanna see this civilization!
well if you've done nothing you've brought a mass of bee jokes!
Unwell Cat
02-01-2008, 09:22 AM
I've removed the vent and widened the hole and cleared an area roughly 3ft by 3ft and found nothing but clumps of dead maggots (tennis ball size clumps)
I think importaku may be correct in that what I thought were maggots are actually bee larvae.. Eek !
Update, I've now filled an entire rubble sack with them.
Spatial
02-01-2008, 10:52 AM
Photo's?
Unwell Cat
02-01-2008, 10:55 AM
Photo's?
I've taken some but can't upload them till later as I still have the ' stuff ' falling out of the hole in the chimney.
Katsujinken
02-01-2008, 11:21 AM
You are so going to BEE assassinated by a swarm of something! :ho:
spagmasterswift
02-01-2008, 11:25 AM
Photo's?
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2813/swarmsimmainwp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spatial
02-01-2008, 11:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmp-SRMwF3E
Enough said really :D
spagmasterswift
02-01-2008, 04:37 PM
Did Unwell Cat die?
Spatial knows all about creepy crawly stuff, ask him nicely enough and he might let you borrow his Spider eggs ;) or are they moldy now?
112 :)
Spatial
02-01-2008, 06:19 PM
They're in cold storage in the fridge. Having them on ice means I can thaw them out whenever they're needed for world domination / weddings / barmitzvahs etc
Katsujinken
02-01-2008, 07:19 PM
Did Unwell Cat die?
R.I.P :thumb: @ least he probably went out like a pro gamer dressed like Master Chief, yelping like Mario & playing Beestorm :cool:
I've had visions of an EDF styling all day, kept me amused throughout my 1st day back at work...
Big respect, he will be missed :cry:
greenblob
02-01-2008, 08:54 PM
PSML, This thread has to be the best Off-Topic thread i've ever read.....Pure comedy!! :D
Unwell Cat
02-01-2008, 09:06 PM
They're in cold storage in the fridge. Having them on ice means I can thaw them out whenever they're needed for world domination / weddings / barmitzvahs etc
Still here. Just finished clearing out the last of the little critters. Had some kind of weird 2nd wall behind the initial plasterboard so with trepidation took a hammer and saw to it and knocked a whole through to be greeted with lots of rubble, cobwebs and something crawling around which I can't quite reach.....!!
So I've left both hole's open for the night and chucked a load of insect killing powder into the opening.
Worst part was when my friend had his mini crowbar inside the first hole scraping the clumps of maggots towards me to lift out and we must have disturbed something further up and this thing landed on my bare wrist. We both screamed and the thing went flying across the room. After checking it turned out to be a large combo clump of maggots, something sticky and something which looked like cobwebs.
And you're leaving the hole open overnight?
You're a braver man than me.
Unwell Cat
02-01-2008, 09:19 PM
And you're leaving the hole open overnight?
You're a braver man than me.
I need to leave the hole open to vent the inside as it's a little damp. Worst case is something crawls out and I shit myself all over the floor and / or in the bed.
spagmasterswift
02-01-2008, 09:35 PM
I'd say worst case would be that the thing you can't quite reach comes out of its hole tonight, crawls into your ear, wraps around your brain and you wake inside your chimney eatting dead maggots...
Unwell Cat
02-01-2008, 09:40 PM
I'd say worst case would be that the thing you can't quite reach comes out of its hole tonight, crawls into your ear, wraps around your brain and you wake inside your chimney eatting dead maggots...
Thanks for that mate. I guess it could also be something like the slugs they used in the star trek film ' The Wrath Of Kahn '
Spatial
02-01-2008, 09:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvWD9MVDps
I'd suggest a big pair of ear muffs for tonight. Just in case.
Katsujinken
02-01-2008, 09:53 PM
And maybe some SECURE Y-Fronts or Speedo's :thumb:
importaku
02-01-2008, 10:27 PM
You lot are just plain evil, & that youtube link :lol:
Mr_Skinny
02-01-2008, 10:43 PM
This thread delivers! :p
I'm looking forward to the pics :)
prinnysquad
02-01-2008, 11:14 PM
lol that scene from Khan put the shitters up me as a kid.
MartyG
03-01-2008, 12:05 AM
Thanks for that mate. I guess it could also be something like the slugs they used in the star trek film ' The Wrath Of Kahn '
They weren't slugs - they were the larva of the Ceti-Eel from Ceti Alpha V, one of which killed Khan's wife, erm, so I'm told :hmm:
Make sure to check for susceptibility to suggestion or insanity in the morning.
spagmasterswift
03-01-2008, 09:36 AM
Make sure to check for susceptibility to suggestion or insanity in the morning.
Morning Unwell Cat, £1,000 to my account by lunchtime, you have PM!
Make sure to check for susceptibility to suggestion or insanity in the morning.
I wake up like that every morning....:confused:
Unwell Cat
03-01-2008, 11:15 AM
In the end I slept downstairs while my mate slept in the room with an high powered lamp shining on the hole sitting upright in the bed watching for movement.
Took him up a coffee this morning and he was still in the same position...
It sounds like something out of a movie, I was expecting your friend to not be there in the morning!
Unwell Cat
03-01-2008, 01:08 PM
Just been told by a builder that the holes need to stay open for about a week to lent the inside vent throughly.
Pics never came out correctly I'm afraid, probably due to my hand shaking so much. I've still got the sack of maggots in my garden so I may have a rummage around in there and take some pics of the clumps later.
Unwell Cat
05-05-2008, 06:28 PM
Update. Maggots turned out to be bee larvae. Which I cleaned out and then got a sweep to clean the chimney and he pulled down a shit load of honeycomb and part of a bee's nest. So all sorted I thought...
How wrong could I bee..! Yesterday I got a knock on the door to find an old lady pointing at the roof of my house. I went outside to find the the sky above my house had darkened and most of my chimney and roof were covered with bee's who were busy swarming. The noise was unbeeliverable. The bee's were on my chimney for about two hours and then disappeared... into my chimney! I went up to the bedroom to find the whole room buzzing from the bee's in the chimney. I guess there was probably around 10,000 of them but I've read a swarm can contain up to 50,000 bee's.
So the wife went out with the little one. I opened the chimney they were in and stuck my head inside. About 20 bee's flew out but I could hear the others further up the chimney. Not sure what to do so I got the portable barbecue we had been saving and stuck it in the chimney opening and lit it. I then added some wood and fire lighters and closed the opening.
I went outside and waited. After about 10mins smoke started to come out followed by a huge eruption of bee's. I guess I must have smoked them good as the sky started to rain bee's, on the path, in the road, in the garden, in next doors garden etc. Dead bee's everywhere.
However the remainder of the swarm have camped on next door's roof and appear to be waiting for something... They keep trying the chimney opening but the smell appears to be putting them off.
Still there up their waiting and I can hear them buzzing at night.
I'm scared.
Skull Commander
05-05-2008, 06:37 PM
Oh man! I missed this thread first time around but it's sick. I'd be crapping me pants if I had loads of bee activity round my abode. I'm not a huge fan of any insect/ creepy crawly. Maybe time to alert the professionals or even just the local council. Hope it all gets sorted out for you guys.
Spatial
05-05-2008, 06:43 PM
Clearly we've now gone from this
pmp-SRMwF3E
to this
keSWusiSNe4
NW2013
05-05-2008, 06:56 PM
There's only one solution to this....
Napalm!
Freddo
05-05-2008, 07:23 PM
dust off and nuke the site from orbit.
buster_broon
05-05-2008, 07:24 PM
dust off and nuke the site from orbit.
it is the only way to be sure
MattyD
05-05-2008, 08:58 PM
Sod nuking the site from orbit, you need to call the EDF :lol:
5H1-qERSjPw
Unwell Cat
05-05-2008, 09:26 PM
Sod nuking the site from orbit, you need to call the EDF :lol:
5H1-qERSjPw
Fantastic clip. If I only had access to that kind of hardware.
My second barbecue has now extinguished itself in the chimney breast and I have nothing else to generate enough smoke to keep the bee's out.
Just had a quick look and they are still on the roof waiting so I've sealed the hole in the bedroom chimney up as best I can. I guess I just need to wait the night out and see what morning brings.
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 12:42 PM
Still there lurking on next doors roof, waiting !
funkydan
06-05-2008, 01:17 PM
I hope you're filming all this dude! You'd have a kind of Hitchcock-esque Birds/Arachnophobia-but-with-bees-not-spiders thing going on!
Maybe it's time to call an exterminator or some kind of pest control expert to ask about what to do with these meddlesome now chav-like bees humming like bastards, planning their next assault on you from your neighbours roof!
Bee Afraid.......Bee very afraid! :lol: or this could bee you:
http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/09/16/bees5.jpg
Unwell Cat is.......Bee Man :p Half the man he used to bee
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 01:33 PM
I hope you're filming all this dude! You'd have a kind of Hitchcock-esque Birds/Arachnophobia-but-with-bees-not-spiders thing going on!
Maybe it's time to call an exterminator or some kind of pest control expert to ask about what to do with these meddlesome now chav-like bees humming like bastards, planning their next assault on you from your neighbours roof!
Bee Afraid.......Bee very afraid! :lol: or this could bee you:
http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/09/16/bees5.jpg
Unwell Cat is.......Bee Man :p Half the man he used to bee
Already had the exterminators in and they removed last year's swarm and nest. The new arrivals are this years swarm..
funkydan
06-05-2008, 01:35 PM
I think you need some kind of bee-straining order :p
Spatial
06-05-2008, 01:39 PM
I think you need some kind of bee-straining order :p
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9354/bumblebeemancz2.jpg
funkydan
06-05-2008, 01:43 PM
Just don't, whatever you do, add elephants into the mix....you have bee-n warned!
http://mrbarlow.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/elephant-and-bee.png
(good lord there's some nonsense on Google images!)
toythatkills
06-05-2008, 01:43 PM
I opened the chimney they were in and stuck my head inside.
Bloody hell, you're brave
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 01:52 PM
Bloody hell, you're brave
Had no choice mate. Had to make room for my fire.
Dirty Sanchez
06-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Get the council in, they'll do it for about £30.
We were told that the bees rarely come back to the same site, looks like you were unlucky with that one.
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 02:24 PM
Get the council in, they'll do it for about £30.
We were told that the bees rarely come back to the same site, looks like you were unlucky with that one.
Spoke to the council. They wont help because -
1- There Honey Bee's and are partially protected.
2- The Bee's are in the chimney stack and it's to dangerous for anyone to remove them.
Apparently Honey Bee's come back each year to the same site.
vanpeebles
06-05-2008, 02:32 PM
Build a hive in the back garden and make your own Unwell Cat honey :)
Awesome thread. LOL'd when you lit the BBQ.
Seriously, I'd get them out as you have, and just seal the ****ing chimney. It may take a year or two for the little ****ers to get the message, but eventually they'll move on somewhere else.
You're a very very brave man!
BeyondJumpFish
06-05-2008, 02:49 PM
Build a hive in the back garden and make your own Unwell Cat honey :)
Yeah if you can get them in a hive you can sell them. Or you can contact a bee collector and he/she will gather them up and take them away for free as for as i know. Bee's are becoming rarer now.
Daragon
06-05-2008, 04:03 PM
You picked a real doozy of an estate agent to buy the house through by the sounds of it.
They should have realised there was something living in your chimney even if they didn't ask. Who did the property evalutation? A child?
If I were you, I'd lay any costs at the previous tenants/estate agent's doorstep, I'm sure you'd have grounds for some form of compensation at least if you can't legally do anything with them yourself.
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 04:05 PM
You picked a real doozy of an estate agent to buy the house through by the sounds of it.
They should have realised there was something living in your chimney even if they didn't ask. Who did the property evalutation? A child?
If I were you, I'd lay any costs at the previous tenants/estate agent's doorstep, I'm sure you'd have grounds for some form of compensation at least if you can't legally do anything with them yourself.
Nothing came up on the Survey and the time of year we bought the house the bee's were not active. It was only when we had moved in next door asked if I was aware of the house's bee problem.
capcom_suicide
06-05-2008, 04:55 PM
Could you seal the chiney at the top for 12 months and see if they don't bother coming back?
Keith
06-05-2008, 04:59 PM
Seal it while they're all in there. They can't come back then. :p
gunrock
06-05-2008, 05:05 PM
I actually like bees and all this killing of them makes me a bit sad. They're useful creatures and generally don't bother you unless your messing with them.
Having said that, I completely understand your problem as they're getting in the way of your refurb plans and also you have little ones to think about.
I also think you're mad, bad and dangerous to know! :D
Keith
06-05-2008, 05:08 PM
I like cats but I'd not really want 50,000 of them living in my chimney. :p
spagmasterswift
06-05-2008, 05:11 PM
Could you not run up the road in a big flower costume and then into your local butchers meat locker, they will follow you and then go to sleep due to the cold temperature? Nobody dies, but its one possible solution...
Spatial
06-05-2008, 05:14 PM
He might if doesn't run quick enough.
You need this guy, he's clearly done this sort of thing before
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5462/gnr06costume004300x400rs9.jpg
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 05:18 PM
I actually like bees and all this killing of them makes me a bit sad. They're useful creatures and generally don't bother you unless your messing with them.
Having said that, I completely understand your problem as they're getting in the way of your refurb plans and also you have little ones to think about.
I also think you're mad, bad and dangerous to know! :D
I also think Bee's are useful creatures and wasn't really that worried until I found my 2yr old in the bedroom being dive bombed by around 10 of them.. I also feel bad about smoking them out as they have probably been coming back to my house for about 10-15yrs but having had to manually scoop dead and live maggotts from their chimney enough is enough.
We woke up one morning to find several maggotts making their escape from the chimney across the bedroom carpet.
Daragon
06-05-2008, 05:56 PM
I also think Bee's are useful creatures and wasn't really that worried until I found my 2yr old in the bedroom being dive bombed by around 10 of them.. I also feel bad about smoking them out as they have probably been coming back to my house for about 10-15yrs but having had to manually scoop dead and live maggotts from their chimney enough is enough.
We woke up one morning to find several maggotts making their escape from the chimney across the bedroom carpet.
Personally, if I were you I wouldn't have let it get that far, if you have a kid or kids especially at that age with bees in the vicinity then you NEED to get rid of them asap, even if it means killing them.
Screw the law, if the council won't act then you're well within your rights, regardless of what you do.
Surely there is like the Ghost Busters but for things like this?!?! Pest control etc? I`m sure you have already tried that though.
NW2013
06-05-2008, 06:53 PM
Yeah, do Rentokil not do this sort of thing? If not smoke the bastards out again and block the top of the chimney.
Katsujinken
06-05-2008, 07:23 PM
Fill the whole thing up with liquid Nitrogen, they will all be cryogenically frozen... And can be brought back to life in the future *maybe*
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 07:55 PM
Fill the whole thing up with liquid Nitrogen, they will all be cryogenically frozen... And can be brought back to life in the future *maybe*
I'll look into this option.
Maybe at the same time I can shove my wife up there and freeze her as well. They can then bring her back to life in the future and hopefully by then they will have found a cure for constant nagging plus it will confuse the **** out of them wondering why she was frozen with a shitload of bee's.
Dirty Sanchez
06-05-2008, 09:00 PM
I'll look into this option.
Maybe at the same time I can shove my wife up there and freeze her as well. They can then bring her back to life in the future and hopefully by then they will have found a cure for constant nagging plus it will confuse the **** out of them wondering why she was frozen with a shitload of bee's.
I hope there are no Austrians reading this thread.............
Katsujinken
06-05-2008, 10:28 PM
I'll look into this option.
Maybe at the same time I can shove my wife up there and freeze her as well. They can then bring her back to life in the future and hopefully by then they will have found a cure for constant nagging plus it will confuse the **** out of them wondering why she was frozen with a shitload of bee's.
I hope there are no Austrians reading this thread.............
:o :rofl:
Has her constant buzzing in your ear made you imagine the hive flood attacking your base?
I think your episode went a little like this:
Captain/Unwell Cat: What happen ?
Mechanic/Kid: Somebody set up us the bomb. Oh look a Bee
Operator/Kid2: We get signal. By the chimney?
Captain/Unwell Cat: What ! Hmm TV will look good there!
Operator/Kid2: Main screen turn on. mUum!
Captain/Unwell Cat: *walks over to view potential TV spot* It's you !!
CATS/Wife: How are you gentlemen !! Unwell Cat wtf ru doin in the chimney?
CATS/Wife: All your base are belong to us. You little Bee's spend to much time on the inernetz & games
CATS/Wife: You are on the way to destruction. TV cant go near the chimney honey, I want nice fireplace
Captain/Unwell Cat: What you say !!
CATS/Wife: You have no chance to survive make your time. Yeah it would look really nice & *Homely*
CATS: Ha Ha Ha Ha .... *Does some dusting..*
Operator/Kid: Captain!! Dad!
Captain/Unwell Cat: Take off every 'ZIG' !! HOMELY!!
Captain/Unwell Cat: You know what you doing. I'l put TV where I f'in want..
Captain/Unwell Cat: Move 'ZIG'. Move Tv
Captain/Unwell Cat: For great justice. Yeah TVs goin here = Launch Nitrogen Bomb
Unwell Cat
06-05-2008, 10:41 PM
:o :rofl:
Has her constant buzzing in your ear made you imagine the hive flood attacking your base?
I think your episode went a little like this:
Captain/Unwell Cat: What happen ?
Mechanic/Kid: Somebody set up us the bomb. Oh look a Bee
Operator/Kid2: We get signal. By the chimney?
Captain/Unwell Cat: What ! Hmm TV will look good there!
Operator/Kid2: Main screen turn on. mUum!
Captain/Unwell Cat: *walks over to view potential TV spot* It's you !!
CATS/Wife: How are you gentlemen !! Unwell Cat wtf ru doin in the chimney?
CATS/Wife: All your base are belong to us. You little Bee's spend to much time on the inernetz & games
CATS/Wife: You are on the way to destruction. TV cant go near the chimney honey, I want nice fireplace
Captain/Unwell Cat: What you say !!
CATS/Wife: You have no chance to survive make your time. Yeah it would look really nice & *Homely*
CATS: Ha Ha Ha Ha .... *Does some dusting..*
Operator/Kid: Captain!! Dad!
Captain/Unwell Cat: Take off every 'ZIG' !! HOMELY!!
Captain/Unwell Cat: You know what you doing. I'l put TV where I f'in want..
Captain/Unwell Cat: Move 'ZIG'. Move Tv
Captain/Unwell Cat: For great justice. Yeah TVs goin here = Launch Nitrogen Bomb
That my friend was simply awesome.
Nothing came up on the Survey and the time of year we bought the house the bee's were not active. It was only when we had moved in next door asked if I was aware of the house's bee problem.
You need proper advice on this. I'm sure the previous owners have to tell you of any issues like this. If the neighbours knew, the owners knew, and they witheld important information. I'd bill them.
Unwell Cat
07-05-2008, 03:07 PM
You need proper advice on this. I'm sure the previous owners have to tell you of any issues like this. If the neighbours knew, the owners knew, and they witheld important information. I'd bill them.
I've had this discussion and apparently wildlife appears not to be covered.
buster_broon
07-05-2008, 03:18 PM
I like cats but I'd not really want 50,000 of them living in my chimney. :p
What would you prefer 50,000 cats the size of bees or 50,000 bees the size of cats
its a quandry
Unwell Cat
07-05-2008, 04:47 PM
What would you prefer 50,000 cats the size of bees or 50,000 bees the size of cats
its a quandry
Mmmm. If bee's were the size of cats would they then become meat eaters?
Keith
07-05-2008, 04:52 PM
No, I don't think so - they'd just make more honey. However, they'd be able to sting you to death much easier.
chaoticjelly
07-05-2008, 05:57 PM
Clearly you need to hire Jason Grimshaw from Coronation Street to smoke them out. I hear he has previous experience with bats.
BeyondJumpFish
07-05-2008, 06:50 PM
i think what you need is 50,000 cats the size of bees to go to war with the bees the size of cats and see who wins!!
And then use some sort of "rebigulator" on the cats...the idea or which is quite
preposterous!!
Where's these pictures of the hive you said you'd show us? I wanna see the infestation... :)
Unwell Cat
07-05-2008, 08:22 PM
I've got pics of the bee's swarming and mounted on my chimney. If someone can tell me a good hosting site to use I'll then try to work out how to link the pics.
buster_broon
07-05-2008, 08:30 PM
I've got pics of the bee's swarming and mounted on my chimney. If someone can tell me a good hosting site to use I'll then try to work out how to link the pics.
http://www.photobucket.com/
that should do the business for you
Katsujinken
22-04-2009, 07:21 PM
SHIT! I haz Bee'Zzzzzzzzz :s
I'm not 100% on what flavour they are but there are loads of the little terrorists popping into the brick work. Luckily for me I'm not scared of Bee's...... I'm petrified :o
Does anyone want them please!
importaku
22-04-2009, 07:41 PM
LOL i haz beez
http://www.honeybeecentre.com/site_assets/www.honeybeecentre.com/images/dynamic/images/bee_beard7-330.jpg
Never eat honey crunchy nut cornflakes without brushing your teeth afterwards they can smell the honey :lol:
Katsujinken
22-04-2009, 07:44 PM
Shite there is a jar of honey in the kitchen!
I def ain't wearing any yellow t-shirts now either :o
chopemon
22-04-2009, 08:23 PM
Open the jar.
Throw the jar outside.
Wait for swarm.
Turn on flame thrower.
Problem solved.
Spatial
22-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Yes I know I posted this before, but the passage of time justifies reusing it
d4MqTCIDKhU
Now if someone wants to set fire to some bee's I can reuse the "HOW'D IT GET BURNED!" one and possibly find a way to work in a "Bear Punch!"
Daragon
22-04-2009, 10:34 PM
I think JML do something for bees living in brickwork :lol:
Ah JML, is there anything they CAN'T do?
charlesr
23-04-2009, 09:09 AM
Just leave them alone. They won't hassle you.
Unless they are inside the house, in which case er...
charlesr
23-04-2009, 09:10 AM
I have birds on top of the chimney. Make a terrible racket and wake me up. How can I stop them landing on the chimney? Bit of wire on the brick? Spikes? Does anyone make stuff for this? I don't have an airgun.
Spatial
23-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Pretty sure the air gun option would just block up your guttering with dead birds.
Spikes are probably your best bet.
Spatial
23-04-2009, 09:21 AM
Sorry, forgot to add and can't edit posts via mobile, but most DIY places will sell anti-roosting strips.
Jebus
23-04-2009, 01:50 PM
I have birds on top of the chimney. Make a terrible racket and wake me up. How can I stop them landing on the chimney? Bit of wire on the brick? Spikes? Does anyone make stuff for this? I don't have an airgun.
I think you need to be careful and find out what kind of birds they are, don't you? :hmm:
funkydan
23-04-2009, 01:52 PM
Also, if they're nesting, you can't move them can you?
toythatkills
23-04-2009, 01:56 PM
You could try Superglue, you'll only need a few dead ones stuck up there to serve as a warning for the rest
(Don't really do this, heh)
spagmasterswift
23-04-2009, 02:14 PM
You need to get some of them bird eating spiders up your chimney!
charlesr
23-04-2009, 02:17 PM
All excellent points.
They are Jackdaws. 4 of them sitting up there having a natter. There wasn't a nest when I checked a couple of weeks ago.
spagmasterswift
23-04-2009, 02:22 PM
Must we have that talk about the birds and bees?
tom-nook
23-04-2009, 02:32 PM
All excellent points.
They are Jackdaws. 4 of them sitting up there having a natter. There wasn't a nest when I checked a couple of weeks ago.
In my Mum's street a few houses have some kind of metal contraption (an upside down cone shape) atop the chimneys to stop birds perching / nesting.
I'd guess there'll be a local company who can either supply or fit one.
Edit: bit like the ones here: http://birdsave.co.uk/index.htm
Katsujinken
23-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Bring your birds to my house please!
Darwock
23-04-2009, 05:27 PM
What you need to do is go round Katsujinken or Unwell Cats house, and get a lot of bees stuck to you. Then go home while covered in bees and shout TOMMY GUN! You can then fire the bee bullets at the birds and voila.. 2 problems solved. Failing that your bees will work as a layer of protective armour allowing you to tackle the birds in hand to hand combat.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/marksalm7/914828_20041202_screen006.jpg
Spatial
23-04-2009, 05:33 PM
What you need is that Dr Doolittle fellow. I hear he's quite good with animals.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3884/e9660.jpg
" Oi! You bees! Go on, **** off!"
charlesr
23-04-2009, 07:01 PM
I like my women like I like my coffee. Covered in bees......
Substitute "women" for birds in this case though.
I've got plenty of bees here. Escorted 2 out of the building yesterday. Dozy sods completely hammered on cherry blossom pollen.
Katsujinken
23-04-2009, 09:45 PM
I hate these lil pollen suckin feckz! i Don't even haz flowers :s Why me, Unwell Cat had tv issues I don't :s
Unwell Cat
21-01-2010, 10:11 PM
Ok, an update. I've had the chimney completed repointed and capped. I've had all the lead flashing replaced around the chimney and the builder assures me that there is no way they will get back in when they return April time. I bloody hope so as the wife the just fininshed decorating the bee bedroom and I've fitted an ornamental cast iron fireplace (which I've made removable just incase)
In August time we did have hundreds of tiny black flies coming out of the chimney for about a month but non since. Occasionally we will hear a thud from inside the chimney and a sweet honey / soot smell and I have to reach inside to remove the fallen honeycombe but no buzzing, no maggotts (dead or alive) so far.
Spatial
21-01-2010, 10:33 PM
So effectively the bees are treating you like a rubbish man? Throwing their trash down your chimney and getting you to clean up after them?
I tell you one thing, I wouldn't stand for that. Get up there and teach them who's part of the superior species on the planet!
edit: customary Bee's video for this thread being resurrected:-
d4MqTCIDKhU
Katsujinken
21-01-2010, 10:57 PM
Since leaving my Bee invested old place, my current flat has these beasts lurking :o
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gunrock
22-01-2010, 08:39 AM
Since leaving my Bee invested old place...
Bee invested? I guess honey's not bringing return on expenditure like it used to, eh? Bee landlords, well I never... :p
Katsujinken
22-01-2010, 01:26 PM
Bee invested? I guess honey's not bringing return on expenditure like it used to, eh? Bee landlords, well I never... :p
Indeed the start of my economic down turn, I am Beeing far more careful with money now :)
Spatial
22-01-2010, 01:28 PM
Keep cracking those types of jokes and someone's going to tell you to buzz off.
Katsujinken
22-01-2010, 01:42 PM
What kind of stinging remark is that? I will beecareful that buzzn't happen.
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Decider-VT
23-01-2010, 02:27 AM
So does this mean that they'll move into the neighbour's chimney in April?
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